老虎 发表于 2017-12-6 02:01:11

朱德南昌起义军入饶路线图解

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入饶路线全图
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1927年10月4日晚上经大埔岗头进入饶平地域
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10月5日凌晨到达上、下祠一带。早上7点钟左右,派第九军教导团三百余人去支援农军攻打三饶县城。余部前往茂芝。
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当时就晒石圩一座桥。
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朱德余部于10月5日上午至茂芝。10月5日晚,周士第指挥的第二十五师后撤部队进驻茂芝。这也侧面说明了周士第二十五师不是同朱德走同一路线。
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10月6日上午,周邦采带领三百人左右原路返回三河坝,闻饶城战斗声寻至茂芝来。告知了"潮汕七日红",潮汕已失守的情况。
另周士第获悉毛泽东的弟弟毛泽覃在三饶县城,命军需主任周廷恩将毛泽覃接到茂芝。
下午至晚上,战士知道了大部队失利的消息,人心谎慌。
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10月7日,朱德同志纠正了部分同志解散队伍,待以后再革命的思想,确定了以朱德同志为核心的领导。在茂芝全德学校作出决策:隐蔽北上,穿山西进,直奔湘南。史称茂芝会议。
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10月7日傍晚,经闽粤交界的柏嵩关出境
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值茂芝会议90周年庆典,让我们重温了这一段光辉的历史,带着疑惑,也让我们更深入的去了解了这一段历史:
1.我们习惯称之为红军的,为什么改写成南昌起义军呢?首先让我们先来认识下军装。

南昌起义军
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红军
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八路军
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1928年5月25日,中国共产党中央委员会决定,全国各地工农革命军正式定名为红军。1927年10月的时候革命队伍还没称作红军。

2.南昌起义军为何南下广东,为何要占领潮汕?
1927年8月1日,起义军占领南昌后,国民党率兵五万余人围攻南昌,而起义军只有二万二千人左右。形势危急,当天下午,周恩来召开参谋团会议,即把队伍拉到广州去,准备实行"第二次北伐",而汕头是个出海口城市,希望在那里能得到苏联共产国际的援助。事实上后来是没有接到苏联的轮船。

3.朱德起义军为什么会经过九村,到茂芝可是绕了一个大圈?
来饶平走九村是有去潮安寻大部队的打算,可能是路上有听到潮汕可能失守的消息,转道茂芝。而在大埔角村是和周士第二十五师有说好在茂芝做接应。二十五师是主力部队。
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部队战线太长,当时没有通讯电台,去潮州的路有好几条是可能的。三河坝战役阻击后撤后,由于通迅不畅,不知道进军潮汕主力部队的情况,军心涣散,很多士兵自行离开了队伍,而后期或是在半路上又收集了很多的士兵,在当时的情况下,思想不统一,也成了很正常的现象。部队的组成是由多支队伍组成,没有统一的编制,造成了很多士兵不认识领导,领导指挥不了其它队伍的士兵。
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周邦采说是原路返回三河坝,有可能去潮州是走饶平这边的
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假设最先去潮安的部队有一股是从九村走的,从地图上看也算是近路一条,九村有没去潮州的官道呢?
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4.为什么几条路线都传说朱德从这经过?
首先朱德同志是党和国家的伟大领袖,是红军之父,普通的老百姓出于对领袖的热爱,大多数人的记忆是只记得朱德,只记得红军的。只能说是朱德领导的部队从这经过,经过几十年的口耳相传,变成了朱德从这经过。不可能几条路线都有朱德同志的身影的嘛,不管是走哪一条,茂芝会议在中国革命史上是重要的一幕。

5.南昌起义军是分几条路线进入茂芝?

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九村路线为朱德第九教导团和警卫排几百人,
大木凹路线为周士第第二十五师上千人,
西片古道路线为周士第第二十五师七十四团负责后卫的2-3百人,最后到达茂芝。   

6.南昌起义军为什么要北上?
10月7日形势分析。
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潮汕失守,大埔沦陷,10月5日攻打饶城保安团后,潮汕粤系,桂系部队,大埔蒋系钱大钧部一定会寻觅过来。而粤闽边界是各军阀守军最薄弱的地方,唯有避开敌军主力,穿山西进打游击,尽快寻找到党中央才是最重要的。

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虫虫掌门人 发表于 2017-12-6 12:59:13

楼主辛苦了。实际上时隔将近百年,再来争议“红军路”已经没太大意义,重要的是全饶北人民都应该通力合作、集体打造、共享资源、共同发展,造福后代子孙才是正道。

老虎 发表于 2017-12-6 13:19:42

虫虫掌门人 发表于 2017-12-6 12:59 static/image/common/back.gif
楼主辛苦了。实际上时隔将近百年,再来争议“红军路”已经没太大意义,重要的是全饶北人民都应该通力合作、 ...

虫叔,我写这个不是争什么路,因为我不是既得利益者,尊重历史,放眼未来,西岩风景区,九村连饶洋,上饶,把几个饶北有特色的景点连在一起,如仙人桥至笔架山至西岩寺,再连西片古道。放上必要的路牌,这是相关部门可以做的事情,饶北资源整合,开发古驿道,大有可为。

老虎 发表于 2017-12-6 14:06:47

上饶镇在路线开发规划方面是走在了前面,反观饶洋,特别是九村,基本上资料是一笔带过,所说的红军路也只是很空洞的几个地名而以,结合实地考察规划很有必要。将近90年,古道逐渐在消失。借助卫星地图,有些是完全按现在的路进行标注

虫虫掌门人 发表于 2017-12-6 14:29:23

老虎 发表于 2017-12-6 13:19
虫叔,我写这个不是争什么路,因为我不是既得利益者,尊重历史,放眼未来,西岩风景区,九村连饶洋,上饶 ...
哈哈哈,老虎误解虫叔了,我不是指这篇帖子存争议。这三条路线王老师写的书里《茂芝风云》已经有记录,某种意义上说我也是认可的,也是比较合理的证明,只是几年来咱们老家大众一直还存在“朱德”争议。

虫虫掌门人 发表于 2017-12-6 14:31:57

老虎 发表于 2017-12-6 13:19
虫叔,我写这个不是争什么路,因为我不是既得利益者,尊重历史,放眼未来,西岩风景区,九村连饶洋,上饶 ...

赞成你的思路和观点,这都是我们所期盼的。

老虎 发表于 2017-12-6 14:36:29

虫虫掌门人 发表于 2017-12-6 14:31 static/image/common/back.gif
赞成你的思路和观点,这都是我们所期盼的。

我赞成,我也听明白了

故乡的风 发表于 2017-12-6 16:22:08

虫虫掌门人 发表于 2017-12-6 12:59
楼主辛苦了。实际上时隔将近百年,再来争议“红军路”已经没太大意义,重要的是全饶北人民都应该通力合作、 ...

说的有道理,把经济,医疗,教育,搞上去才是硬道理

故乡的风 发表于 2017-12-6 16:22:18

虫虫掌门人 发表于 2017-12-6 12:59
楼主辛苦了。实际上时隔将近百年,再来争议“红军路”已经没太大意义,重要的是全饶北人民都应该通力合作、 ...

说的有道理,把经济,医疗,教育,搞上去才是硬道理

故乡的风 发表于 2017-12-6 16:22:36

虫虫掌门人 发表于 2017-12-6 12:59
楼主辛苦了。实际上时隔将近百年,再来争议“红军路”已经没太大意义,重要的是全饶北人民都应该通力合作、 ...

说的有道理,把经济,医疗,教育,搞上去才是硬道理

故乡的风 发表于 2017-12-6 16:22:46

虫虫掌门人 发表于 2017-12-6 12:59
楼主辛苦了。实际上时隔将近百年,再来争议“红军路”已经没太大意义,重要的是全饶北人民都应该通力合作、 ...

说的有道理,把经济,医疗,教育,搞上去才是硬道理

佛山瓷砖詹江泉 发表于 2017-12-6 16:53:01

很详细哦

老虎 发表于 2017-12-6 18:07:03

饶北的未来在于土地,一直以来土地是没有规划的,造成了成片的资源浪费,也许像深圳一样,村委成立股份制公司,政府引导一村一产业,工业或是农业,副业开发。走上共同富裕之路,值红色经济开发之契机,大潮高速开通将至,饶北将迎来最佳发展机遇。

磊不累 发表于 2017-12-6 19:09:13

开发饶平农民自卫军迎接朱德红军路线图,九村至瓜园寨古道。

东方红 发表于 2017-12-6 20:25:32

老虎 发表于 2017-12-6 18:07
饶北的未来在于土地,一直以来土地是没有规划的,造成了成片的资源浪费,也许像深圳一样,村委成立股份制公 ...

如果饶北每个镇的领导者有这个心,饶北崛起不在话下!饶北乡贤鼎力相助!飞黄腾达!可是有几个领导能做到!不去搞人民已经是万幸了!在地方做一任他们只想安安逸逸!

老虎 发表于 2017-12-6 20:59:05

东方红 发表于 2017-12-6 20:25 static/image/common/back.gif
如果饶北每个镇的领导者有这个心,饶北崛起不在话下!饶北乡贤鼎力相助!飞黄腾达!可是有几个领导能做到 ...

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射手 发表于 2017-12-7 10:55:46

饶北要发展的同时也要尊总历史的真实,探讨是必须的,发展也是要努力跟上

一一唐民 发表于 2017-12-7 15:28:24

探讨是必须的,弘扬爱国精神、必先确认革命史实。尊重历史。

一一唐民 发表于 2017-12-7 15:35:58

作者写得很好!很有个人见解,可惜真人不露相。饶北很多人都这样写了文章不署真名。

老虎 发表于 2017-12-7 16:25:12

一一唐民 发表于 2017-12-7 15:35 static/image/common/back.gif
作者写得很好!很有个人见解,可惜真人不露相。饶北很多人都这样写了文章不署真名。

汤明叔叔,我见过你,你不认识我。你那一份为民请命,不为利益的那份执着我很钦佩,也是我们后辈看在眼里的榜样。
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